Why hasn’t Final Fantasy 17 started production yet?

1 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 10:34:05 ID:9Z8N
I wonder why~

2 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 10:35:20 ID:vFXS
Because they’re making 7.

3 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 10:37:21 ID:sGCr
I haven’t even played 16 yet.

5 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 10:37:49 ID:vFXS
>>3
It’s free on subscription services.

4 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 10:37:33 ID:vFXS
They messed up so bad with 15 and 16,
they’re probably trying to win users back by releasing 7 on multiple platforms.

6 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 10:38:32 ID:ooO4
16 is such a bizarre game, it was too “safe” and ended up dead.

7 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 10:40:02 ID:vFXS
Old-school fans avoided 16 because it’s an action game,
and new players saw it as an inferior version of other games. Makes sense it failed.

8 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 10:40:33 ID:CCsJ
My impression is that 16 tried to move away from the “host fantasy” vibe, but failed to differentiate itself from other fantasy action games and just died.

9 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 10:40:54 ID:vFXS
It also hurts that they messed up 15 so badly.

11 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 10:42:17 ID:CCsJ
I didn’t hate the character designs in 15, though it was hilarious seeing them wear suits at a campsite. LOL

12 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 10:42:59 ID:ooO4
Excluding the online titles, hasn’t the reputation been dropping steadily since 12?
10 was probably the peak for offline titles.

13 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 10:43:36 ID:zs12
The production staff got too cocky with 15.

14 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 10:43:45 ID:vFXS
I don’t need a new game, I just want a full remake of 6 or 9.

15 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 10:44:09 ID:G7cP
I wish they’d just make a standard numbered, fully offline game like 10 once.

16 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 10:44:54 ID:nGtD
No more bad endings.
Just have the hero and heroine share a happy kiss and end it. That’s all I need.

17 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 10:45:49 ID:vFXS
I want a sequel to Type-0.
If they released it on Switch, it would probably sell decently.

18 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 10:46:10 ID:9Z8N
>>17
Oh yeah, that was a thing.

21 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 10:48:10 ID:vFXS
FF7 Rebirth is fun, but the Remake itself was a disappointment.

22 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 10:48:25 ID:ooO4
Spinoffs like Type-0 or Stranger of Paradise actually seem to get higher ratings.

25 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 10:50:00 ID:KtjK
Why don’t we stop dreaming about FF? It’s just that 5-9 were good.

26 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 10:50:24 ID:ooO4
>>25
10 was good too, don’t you think?

28 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 10:51:48 ID:LC2B
They probably decided to just make money with 14 instead of making 17.

29 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 10:51:53 ID:NBx5
They should have realized by now that chasing Western games is a total waste.
They need to go all-in on developing a JRPG.

35 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 10:53:33 ID:ooO4
>>29
Persona is amazing in that regard.

37 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 10:54:52 ID:ci8i
16 was just a straight-up bad game.

38 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 10:55:08 ID:vFXS
They’ll probably release one for PS6.
No idea when that’ll be, though.

42 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 10:57:28 ID:vFXS
When they started making the FF7 Remake, people said the company was in real trouble. Since even their ace card didn’t sell enough and they had to switch to multi-platform, they must be in serious trouble.

43 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 10:58:13 ID:zs12
>>42
I never expected them to split their final ace card into parts.

44 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 10:58:23 ID:ooO4
They probably started working on an 8 Remake as soon as 7 Remake started showing signs of failure.

45 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 10:58:59 ID:ckqy
If 7 Remake fails, they can just make a 10 Remake.

48 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 11:00:00 ID:CCsJ
If they made FF5 or 6 playable in 3D with modern handsome character models, it might still work. It would hit right with the middle-aged demographic now.

49 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 11:00:43 ID:ooO4
Why didn’t they just do the 7 remake exactly like the original?
And what’s with making a story that requires knowledge of the original?

52 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 11:02:25 ID:ckqy
I bet people don’t even remember the protagonist of FF16.

54 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 11:02:43 ID:au60
>>52
He’s the most forgettable one ever.

55 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 11:03:15 ID:ci8i
Producers like Yoshida who love the spotlight are incompetent.

58 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 11:03:31 ID:wA0h
I hated 15 so much I didn’t buy 16.

60 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 11:04:08 ID:vFXS
16 is free on PS+ so you don’t need to buy it.

64 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 11:04:46 ID:vFXS
It sucks that the Crisis Core remaster was so bad it killed the chances of a sequel.

65 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 11:04:59 ID:GyOI
Maybe they don’t have the budget because FF16 didn’t sell?

69 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 11:06:02 ID:ooO4
They probably should have gone with a stylish route since 10, but Persona has that market cornered perfectly, so it’s a tough spot.

73 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 11:06:51 ID:ooO4
Dragon Quest 12 already looks shaky too.

74 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 11:06:56 ID:R2Hu
In Monsters, reading the synthesis strategy guide is more fun than playing the game itself.

78 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 11:08:15 ID:wA0h
If you only do the story, the Monsters games finish really quickly. All of them.

79 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 11:08:21 ID:GyOI
Maybe I should try Joker for Monsters 4…

80 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 11:08:39 ID:ckqy
>>79
3 “…”

85 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 11:10:05 ID:KtjK
Please hire a scenario writer with actual proven success for 17.

94 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 11:13:09 ID:KtjK
Just release something normally good. I want you to focus on fun, not just graphics. Even a low budget is fine. I’d even go back to pixel art and character sprites.

95 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 11:13:15 ID:ooO4
Seriously, what are they going to do about the combat system for the next one?

96 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 11:13:27 ID:pskX
They probably lack the ability to create something original. Don’t be too hard on them. The old days were good.

98 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 11:13:40 ID:ckqy
Square Enix still has the Chrono Trigger remake and FF10 remake as ammo though…

111 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 11:16:00 ID:LC2B
Can’t kids these days play RPGs?

112 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 11:16:21 ID:uMqf
>>111
It does seem like they only play action games.

114 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 11:16:47 ID:ooO4
>>111
They’ve gotten used to combat systems that are fast-paced and stress-free.

115 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 11:16:51 ID:nGtD
>>111
Even for stuff like Pokémon, people demand full voice acting. I think there’s just a segment that’s bad at reading text.

116 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 11:17:14 ID:GyOI
>>111
No, they do. I sometimes see kids playing Dragon Quest 3. Though their parents probably bought it for them.

119 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 11:18:03 ID:vFXS
Let’s just stick with Octopath Traveler for the turn-based fix.

120 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 11:18:15 ID:KtjK
They don’t have to insist on Action RPGs.

126 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 11:20:51 ID:KtjK
FF15 was 10 years ago? LOL

129 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 11:22:26 ID:KtjK
Surely they’ve started production, right?

130 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 11:22:32 ID:au60
I seriously can’t forgive the splitting of 7.
Are they out of their minds?

137 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 11:26:23 ID:2gAa
They’re probably struggling with the graphics for the sandwiches they’re working on as a “new challenge”.

138 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 11:27:30 ID:KtjK
>>137
And they’re making 10 million yen a year for that? People actually making sandwiches are contributing more to society.

139 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 11:27:39 ID:LC2B
After those lazy “Pixel Remaster” ports, I can’t even look forward to remakes of past games.

142 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 11:30:29 ID:PbwU
They probably don’t have the capability to make a real new game anymore. They held an indie game contest and got trashed for it.

143 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 11:31:08 ID:vuZJ
Their marketing is weird. Like, everyone thought FF16 would be a dark open-world RPG like Elden Ring. If they just advertised it as “a linear cinematic game” from the start, people wouldn’t be this disappointed.

146 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 11:34:41 ID:6PGO
The girl stolen by Street Fighter 6.

147 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 11:35:00 ID:kSJz
Just use Gambit for the combat already.

155 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 11:43:07 ID:LC2B
I’ve already jumped ship.

156 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 11:43:24 ID:ctdC
I’m still debating whether to play 16 or not.

161 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 11:48:28 ID:rabJ
They’re busy with Dragon Quest 12 and Kingdom Hearts 4.
Well, those two probably won’t fail, and once they’re settled, they’ll move on to FF.

166 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 12:01:27 ID:pLjn
They don’t even seem to have decided which hardware to release it on.
Even if they take money for PS6 exclusivity, it’ll probably follow the same path as 16.

167 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 12:05:07 ID:NBx5
Dragon Quest Builders 3
Dragon Quest Heroes 3
Where are they?

180 Name: Unknown Japuzz Watcher Posted: 26/07/03(Fri) 12:44:09 ID:tC7x
If they just released a new IP that evolved the Romancing SaGa 2 or Trials of Mana remake route, it would be rated well. I don’t get why they just use it for remakes and then discard it.

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