1: Unknown Japuzz Watcher ID:iFTamp9P0
Tell me.
55: Unknown Japuzz Watcher ID:WKNkAoo50
>>1
Seriously, like… (Is this guy brain-dead?)
2: Unknown Japuzz Watcher ID:+SYs03Gkd
Buying new just to sell it is the same thing, buddy.
3: Unknown Japuzz Watcher ID:iFTamp9P0
As long as we don’t get rid of these secondhand beggars,
the prices of game consoles and software will just keep going up, right?
4: Unknown Japuzz Watcher ID:dOAkjehY0
What do you mean “how”?
They should just abolish physical discs already.
5: Unknown Japuzz Watcher ID:3bPNCh6s0
What even is a “secondhand beggar”?
6: Unknown Japuzz Watcher ID:y8H4MAXFd
It’s simple: just make games that people don’t want to sell.
8: Unknown Japuzz Watcher ID:feIoXdAN0
People only buy new because they know they can resell it later.
50: Unknown Japuzz Watcher ID:ef8kdTvC0
>>8
There’s definitely some truth to that.
9: Unknown Japuzz Watcher ID:DfbAcVYT0
Don’t call your own core user base “beggars.”
11: Unknown Japuzz Watcher ID:Hlrlyl7C0
You’re completely ignoring the benefits of the secondhand market,
and ironically, those “secondhand beggars” you’re talking about are the PlayStation user base themselves.
What is this… what even is this thread?
12: Unknown Japuzz Watcher ID:HP2l3TRN0
>>11
The “beat it fast, sell it fast” crowd.
Secondhand beggars.
The “giant smartphone” crowd.
These groups have supported PlayStation until now.
Now, two of them are being kicked out.
14: Unknown Japuzz Watcher ID:I0+X2pMu0
If that was the goal, they should’ve just gone digital-only without waiting for Sony to make a move.
Nobody can argue with that.
15: Unknown Japuzz Watcher ID:NEGneQg10
I’m against eliminating secondhand sales.
That said, if Sony wants to do it, they should go ahead.
I think the result will end up just like Xbox.
18: Unknown Japuzz Watcher ID:hML7pvvp0
The reason people buy packages at full price on release day is because a secondhand market exists.
24: Unknown Japuzz Watcher ID:ziD5Nipk0
People seem to have this misconception that people who buy secondhand never buy new games.
28: Unknown Japuzz Watcher ID:0Rs2J+xE0
Some idiot is making noise again, I see.
36: Unknown Japuzz Watcher ID:hML7pvvp0
Secondhand is just time-shifted sharing. Are people who room-share “beggars” too?
38: Unknown Japuzz Watcher ID:K348eGeA0
PS had more active secondhand trading than Switch did,
so why is it suddenly treated as evil? You guys were all about “great value” and stuff.
PlayStation fans really are shallow and inconsistent.
39: Unknown Japuzz Watcher ID:nBDXzNfw0
Secondhand trading is a legitimate business transaction—it’s been 24 years since the Supreme Court ruling on this.
Calling it begging and demanding it be removed is just your personal opinion, and nobody has to agree with you.
42: Unknown Japuzz Watcher ID:WH4E9JJJ0
No, no. Those “secondhand beggars” don’t even exist anymore.
It’s the “new-game-price-drop beggars” now. And they sell those to stores, right?
Stores buy them, put them on shelves… and then that used copy just sits there forever.
Get it?
And the thing is, even those discounted new games aren’t selling.
43: Unknown Japuzz Watcher ID:moWn96w10
And all that’s left are the “free-to-play beggars” lol
46: Unknown Japuzz Watcher ID:B0CBwPnw0
Why is there a need to eliminate secondhand in the first place?
If you want to take the profit, come up with your own solution.
47: Unknown Japuzz Watcher ID:aLDvzjCK0
Is there anyone who has literally never used a secondhand store in their entire life?
48: Unknown Japuzz Watcher ID:3SIh/QtW0
And so, the “giant smartphone” crowd remains.
Fin
54: Unknown Japuzz Watcher ID:LnumAhXd0
It just proves Nintendo was right.
They never dump their games for pennies, and even when they have sales, it’s only about 30% off, so they don’t devalue their IP.
68: Unknown Japuzz Watcher ID:K348eGeA0
>>54
I mean, I think visual novels could be cheaper though.
58: Unknown Japuzz Watcher ID:RIo4SlAM0
Tell the people buying used cars
they’re beggars too.
Go punch them in the face.
60: Unknown Japuzz Watcher ID:mNmxlT7v0
>>58
Cars are different because they’re a depreciating asset—they lose value just by sitting there.
62: Unknown Japuzz Watcher ID:/geRU+FOd
Suddenly declaring the secondhand market evil… sounds just like them.
65: Unknown Japuzz Watcher ID:HgqAOMNx0
It’s about “digital secondhand sales.”
That’s what MS tried to do, got massive pushback for, and cancelled.
The problem with secondhand sales is that developers don’t get a cut.
If platformers handled digital secondhand sales, they could pay the developers from the transaction fees.
The mechanism is already possible today.
This way, even users without much money could buy games on day one.
Though, since the platformers would run it, you’d only get half back on a trade-in, and the resale price would probably be around 80% of retail.
67: Unknown Japuzz Watcher ID:7XcWk2Ex0
If the software developers were running it, I’d get it, but it’s the hardware manufacturers doing it.
71: Unknown Japuzz Watcher ID:7XcWk2Ex0
Actually, the environment to resell digital codes has existed for a while. The fact that nobody did it means that physical discs still have more advantages.
74: Unknown Japuzz Watcher ID:SzJJ/9tB0
Does the current disc-less movement even have that much to do with secondhand games?
Did Sony ever say they were doing it to fight the secondhand market?
It’s more like “we aren’t making physical media anymore,” and this is just an inevitable side effect. I don’t think it’s the main goal.
76: Unknown Japuzz Watcher ID:ZER1Hq9O0
I don’t think it’s fair to compare it to piracy sites.
78: Unknown Japuzz Watcher ID:sah2aNV50
Everything went downhill the moment people started defining “beating a game and reselling it immediately” as the ultimate “smart consumer move.”
79: Unknown Japuzz Watcher ID:9pdhrECH0
Sorry, I’m a secondhand beggar.
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